Sunday, 3 June 2012

FEDERAL PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION
RECRUITMENT WING
Subject:- MINUTES OF MEETING CONVENED AT THE FEDERAL PUBLIC 
SERVICE COMMISSION (FPSC) TO DISCUSS THE STATUS/ 
EQUIVALENCE OF DEGREES AWARDED TO TECHNOLOGISTS
On the request of the Chairman, Pakistan Council of Technologists (PCT) 
to the Chairman FPSC to discuss and seek solution to the problems being faced 
by technologists, a meeting on the subject was convened at 10.00 AM on 19-02-
2011 in the FPSC Conference Room.
2.      The meeting was chaired by Maj. Gen. (Retd) Ovais Mushtaq Qureshi, 
Member FPSC. The following officers attended the meeting.
i. Mr. Sadiq Ali Anjum, Director General (Recruitment), FPSC.
ii. Mr. Rahim Baksh Channa, Director General (A&A) HEC.
iii. Mr. M. Javeed Khan, Advisor HEC.
iv. Mr. Anjum Pervez Addl.General Manager, (Infrastructure) Pakistan 
Railways.
v. Brig. Mushtaq Ahmad, DR&S, E-in-C’s Branch DP&A Dte, GHQ, 
Rawalpindi.
vi. Engr. Z.M. Peracha, Secretary/Registrar, Pakistan Engineering 
Council (PEC).
vii. Engr. Dr. Nasir Mahmood Khan, Additional Registrar, PEC.
viii. Mr. Zafar Iqbal Minhas, MTLA, PEC.
ix. Mr. Safdar, Superintending Engineer, Pak. PWD.
x. Mr. Ramiz Ahmad Director (FS), FPSC.
xi. Mr. Azmat Hayat Malik, Director (T&S), FPSC.
xii. A delegation from the Pakistan Council of Technologists 
comprising:-
a. Prof. Javed Iqbal, Chairman,
b. M. Farooq Raja, Secretary,
c. Muhammad Tahir,
d. Abid Bukhari,
e. Ijar Sulehri, 
f. Imam Buksh,
g. M. Yaqoob Raza,
h. Khurshid Shanwari.Page 2 of 5
3.        Mr. Naguib Ullah Malik, Member FPSC could not attend the meeting due 
to his preoccupation.
4.        After recitation from the Holy Quran, the chair welcomed the participants 
and apprised the meeting that the main agenda and purpose of the meeting was 
to take all stakeholders on board on the issue of equivalence of B.Tech (Hons) 
degree and resolve its relationship/equivalence with Bachelor of Engineering.  
Thereafter, representatives of the Pakistan Council of Technologists (PCT) were 
asked to give presentation on the issue. 
5.        Secretary, (PCT) presented that since the inception of B.Tech Programme 
in 1973, the B.Tech (Hons) degree has been treated as equivalent to Bachelor of 
Engineering and as such the B.Tech (Hons) degree holders are being recruited 
for posts where the required qualification is BE.  In support of his claim, he stated 
that the disciplines of engineering and technology overlap each other and there 
are a lot of commonalities between the two.  He also cited a decision of HEC 
wherein HEC had recognized the B.Tech (Hons) degree equivalent to BE 
degree.                                                         
Another justification that was cited was the Judgment of the Supreme Court 
taken in Suo Moto Review Petition 52 of 1993 (Annex-I) which related to 
equivalence of B.Tech (Hons) degree with BE degree.                     
He and the other participants of PCT argued that the degree of B.Tech (Hons) 
should be treated at par with BE and the recruitment of B.Tech (Hons) degree 
holders against the posts where BE is the required qualification be accepted by  
FPSC which had ruled that B.Tech (Hons) degree is not acceptable where B.E. is 
the prescribed qualification on the basis of resolutions passed by the PEC in its 
22
nd
Annual General Body Meeting held on 17.4.2010 and HEC vide their letter 
dated 1.9.2010 (Annexes II & III).
6.        On the issues brought out by Secretary, PCT, the views expressed by 
other stakeholders and their stance on these issues was as under:
HEC: The Adviser HEC reiterated their earlier stance taken in HEC’s 39
th
Meeting held on 12.2.1998 according to which the two degrees do have 
some commonalities of subjects but are not to be treated as equivalent to 
one another. However they contended that the employer is the best judge Page 3 of 5
to determine the type of qualification required for a particular job. (The 
HEC decision is attached as Annex-III):
(i) MES/E-in-C: The representative of E-in-C stated that on the basis of their 
past experience it was the considered opinion of GHQ that the holders of 
B.Tech (Hons) could only be suitably employed in BS-16 posts unless 
otherwise provided in the recruitment rules. But to recruit them directly 
against posts in grade 17 and above where B.E is the required 
qualification is not appropriate because they do not possess the desired
level of knowledge and expertise possessed by holders of BE degree and 
doing so would be unfair for the profession of Engineering. If the two 
degrees are accepted as equivalent then the quality of work relating to 
Engineering is likely to be seriously compromised. 
(ii) Railways: The representative of the Railways was of the view that though 
the technologists are contributing a lot in his department, the absence of 
any regulatory regime to standardize the curriculum and qualification 
standards of B.Tech (Hons) degree inhibits the recruitment of holders of 
B.Tech (Hons) against posts requiring degree of Bachelors of 
Engineering. 
(iii) Pak PWD: The representative was of the view that pre-requisites for 
admission in disciplines of B.Tech and B.E. should also be taken into 
account while taking decision on equivalence of the two degrees which,
according to him, can never be treated as equivalent.
(iv) PEC: The representative of PEC stated that the B.Tech (Hons) degree is 
not accredited by PEC. In fact “Technology” and “Engineering” are two 
separate and distinct streams, with different, distinct syllabi and 
programme objectives. This has also been the considered view of all the 
Vice-Chancellors of UETs, who are themselves the degree awarding 
authorities. Under the provisions of the PEC Act, the “Accredited 
Engineering Qualification” means any of the qualifications included in First 
Schedule or Second Schedule of the Act. The B.Tech (Pass) or B.Tech 
(Hons) had never been included in the said schedules. [In the recent past Page 4 of 5
the PEC in its 22
nd
Annual General Body Meeting has adopted two 
resolutions regarding non acceptance of B.Tech degree as equivalent to 
B.E. degree vide their letter dated 15.11.2010 (Annex-IV).
According to PEC, the regulations and monitoring of “Technology” 
education in Pakistan had not been assigned to any Regulatory Body 
which not only caused deterioration, but resulted in frustration amongst 
the technologists.
7.       Representatives of the FPSC informed the participants that as far as 
recruitment through FPSC is concerned, it is made strictly in accordance with the 
recruitment rules notified by the concerned Ministries/ Divisions/Departments. 
For equivalence/relevance of educational qualifications, FPSC depends on the 
advice of the HEC or other statutory regulatory bodies such as PEC, PMDC, 
PNC, etc. Since PCT is not a statutory body, it does not fall within this category.  
If notified recruitment rules require a BE degree, against it only candidates 
possessing a BE degree can be appointed. The technologists/ PCT may 
approach the users i.e. the departments concerned to provide for the qualification 
of B.Tech (Hons) degree in the recruitment rules of the respective posts, if it suits 
the end users. The department can re-evaluate the requirement of utilization of 
B.Tech (Hons) degree for various posts filled through FPSC and accordingly 
appropriate provisions in the rules for B.Tech (Hons) be created, if so desired. Till 
then the FPSC will continue to be guided by the PEC Act 1976 as amended from 
time to time, and decision of HEC and PEC of not accepting both the degrees as
equivalent will be accepted. The contention of the Technologists that the B.Tech 
(Hons) degree has been accepted as equivalent to B.E. by the HEC has also not 
been proved or supported by the HEC itself. The HEC’s stance is that both the 
degrees have some commonalities and it is for the employer to determine their 
suitability for a particular job. The employers and the major stakeholders i.e. the 
MES, Railways, PWD etc have also categorically reiterated and supported the 
stance taken by the FPSC that the posts be filled strictly in accordance with the 
notified Recruitments Rules and in conformity with the qualifications specified 
therein.Page 5 of 5
8.         After deliberations it was resorted that the Ministry of Science & 
Technology being the regulatory authority of the PEC be asked to regularise the 
B.Tech (Hons) degree programme by enactment in PEC Act or through a 
separate council/act. In case a separate council is created its probable clash on
the interactive points with PEC should not be ignored. Till regularization of 
B.Tech programme and its proper monitoring at certain levels, the quality of its 
degree holders would remain in question.
(Sadiq Ali Anjum)
Director General (R&S)

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